The Rock ‘n Roll Church

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           Bible Believers’ Newsletter 859

“We focus on the present Truth – what Jesus is doing now. . .”
ISSN 1442-8660

Christian greetings in the precious Name of our Lord Jesus Christ, it’s a privilege to have you with us.

As usual we encourage you to read the “Full story” behind the items of current news, which this week illustrate the moral degeneracy of the governments of so-called ‘Christian’ nations which, were they not shielded by the disinformation of the alien-controlled global media, who ensure electors are ill-informed and miss-informed, we would all know that is definitely not our wishes they are re-presenting, but those of the banksters of the ‘City of London,’ Vatican City State and others working toward and vying for mastery in Lucifer’s one world government which was refused by Abraham’s Seed, Jesus Christ.

Please welcome back Pastor Don Elmore, contributing author of this week’s main article, “The Rock ‘n Roll Church” which traces rock ‘n roll from Babylon to Egypt, to the jungles of Africa to the New World by slaves transported by Jewish slavers, and from the United States of America to the world and into the churches in a strange revival promoted by Jewish magazines radio, television and newspapers. Pastor Elmore mentions many big time ministers who participated in this perverse revival of Babylonian rock that “transformed the Christian church to an anti-Christian church and very few realized what had happened” (Revelation 3:17-20)!

Read the article slowly, visit the links and reflect on your life. Meditate how civilization has devolved under the Babylonian beat; how you have consciously or unconsciously surrendered to its seductive manipulation, your social mores conformed to its satanic image. Now reflect upon the conduct of services in your Church. Psalm 46:10 instructs: “Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.” Do services center upon reverent worship pleasing to the Lord and they edify your soul with Spiritual Food in due season, or merely repeat the history and recite the letter of a deceased Prophet? Does the congregation slip from under preeminence to the Holy Spirit beneath overriding elements that excite and hold reign over the senses of flesh and mortal spirit? Consider prayerfully.

This Newsletter serves those of like precious faith. Whoever will receive the truth is welcome to feed their soul from the waters of the River of Life. Everything here presented should be confirmed personally in your own Bible.

Your brother-in-Christ
Anthony Grigor-Scott


Canada Parlt. Shooting False Flag – Cameras pre-stationed at EVERY Angle

October 23, 2014 — Watch RAW video of the shooting as it happened live here . . . One thing about this “live active shooter” video . . . that would NEVER happen in a “real” situation like a random spontaneous shooting . . . cameramen pre-stationed at every angle, hiding from other cameras view, ducking out of the way of the video, not hiding from shooters?

At each pillar, we see HIGH QUALITY media video cameras! Stationed IN FRONT of the pillars to try to avoid being in each other’s shot, not hiding from anyone as they are fully exposed! Then, as if one camera out in the open isn’t enough, another camera man is right behind using a wooden chair to rest his camera on—out in the open, no big deal . . . Then a THIRD cameraman ducks out behind our rolling cameraman!!

Notice each cameraman is different . . . one wearing a green shirt, one wearing a striped shirt . . . so we know it’s not a shot of the same person twice.

THREE media cameras in the live shot of the shooting, and the camera rolling, which we’re watching to get this video makes the fourth!! Then our cameraman runs down the hall, uncut, to another area . . . where we see at LEAST three to four more cameras with sound engineers on hand as well.

No one else there, just police standing, and MULTIPLE cameras and sound engineers with microphone booms. All these cameramen stationed at multiple spots, literally as the shooting took place. For sure three cameramen in the hall, plus the guy filming what we see above. False flag? Total Hoax? Media staged, or forewarned to be there ready to roll? Combination of these? For sure too many cameras on hand, and for sure they’re not hiding from gunmen, but from each other’s view! Full story: dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com


Canadian Terror Wave: a Modern-Day Gladio

October 23, 2014 — As warned, after multiple staged incidents used to ratchet up fear and paranoia in the build-up to US and its allies’ military intervention in Syria and Iraq, at least two live attacks have now been carried out in Canada—precisely as they were predicted.

The first attack involved a deadly hit-and-run that left one Canadian soldier dead. AP would report in its article, “Terrorist ideology blamed in Canada car attack,” that: “A young convert to Islam who killed a Canadian soldier in a hit-and-run had been on the radar of federal investigators, who feared he had jihadist ambitions and seized his passport when he tried to travel to Turkey, authorities said Tuesday”.

The second, most recent attack, involved a shooting in Ottawa injuring several and killing another Canadian soldier on Parliament Hill. RT in its article, “Ottawa gunman ‘identified’ as recent Muslim convert, high-risk traveler,” would report that: “While the name of the Ottawa gunman is yet to be announced, a number of officials told numerous media that the shooter is believed to be Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a recent Muslim convert, allegedly designated as a high-risk traveler”.

Canada’s attacks were predictable—western security agencies are prime suspects. It was warned last month after security agencies staged scares in both the US and Australia, that suspects under investigation, being walked through planned terrorist attacks by Western security agencies as part of “sting operations” would inevitably be switched to live terrorist attacks . . .
Full story: globalresearch.ca


EbolaGate is actually a Bioweapons False Flag attack strategy, with many sophisticated alternative scenarios

Ebola virus & vaccine

Vancouver, October 20, 2014 — EbolaGate is actually a Bioweapons False Flag attack strategy, with many sophisticated alternative scenarios, some of which may or may not materialize as in all false flags. The basic premise is to start an Ebola “outbreak” with a bioweapons attack of the Ebola virus in West African countries where local immune systems and health profiles are compromised, there are unsanitary conditions, little public health care, and martial law quarantines for mass infection can easily be imposed (as when towns of 50,000 persons are now being quarantined rather than the infected persons in the towns). Instead of being treated with known Vitamin C and immune system treatments, local populations are given ineffective treatments, or worse, treatments that are themselves bioweapons. The scenario here, led by WHO, is to covertly maximize infection rates and vector propagation, shred local health care and public order (nurses are now on strike in one country). This scenario is aimed at: (1) creating a base for an African Bioweapons genocide, long sought because of the mineral, oil and gas wealth of Africa. [Think of the US Rangers infecting of South Africa with the AIDS virus embedded in the small pox vaccine in the mid 1990s]. (2) Providing the jumping-off point for mutation of the EbolaGate viruses and their traveling via air travel, sea travel, land, to Europe, India, Asia, and North and South America. In North America there awaits a sophisticated Ebola Gate False Flag machine led by WHO-CDC [Nazi-CIA] and Martial law regulations signed by George Bush I & II, Clinton, and Obama that can mandate FEMA incarceration and mass vaccinations with EbolaGate vaccines that maim or kill as part of the depopulation plan.

To see the estimated death toll, under current infection rates of Ebola gate by June 2016 of Infected persons: 4,707,573,324 [4.7 Billion] Dead persons: 2,877,739,573 [2.8 billion] please go to: Regularly Updated! Deadly Ebola Virus Outbreak – EbolaGate.

References: Alfred Webre: Plan A is Martial Law; Plan B is Ebola. Awareness and Critical Mass can deconstruct planned extermination. EbolaGate is actually a Bioweapons False Flag attack strategy, with many sophisticated alternative scenarios . . . Full story: exopolitics.blogs.com


US is Responsible for the Ebola Outbreak in West Africa: Liberian Scientist

October 17, 2014 — The US Department of Defense (DoD) is funding Ebola trials on humans, trials which started just weeks before the Ebola outbreak in Guinea and Sierra Leone. The reports continue and state that the DoD gave a contract worth $140 million dollars to Tekmira, a Canadian pharmaceutical company, to conduct Ebola research. This research work involved injecting and infusing healthy humans with the deadly Ebola virus. Hence, the DoD is listed as a collaborator in a “First in Human” Ebola clinical trial (NCT02041715, which started in January 2014 shortly before an Ebola epidemic was declared in West Africa in March.

Is it possible that the United States Department of Defense (DOD) and other Western countries are directly responsible for infecting Africans with the Ebola virus? Dr. Broderick claims that the US government has a research laboratory located in a town called Kenema in Sierra Leone that studies what he calls “viral fever bioterrorism.” It is also the town that he acknowledges is the “epicenter of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa” . . . He says that “there is urgent need for affirmative action in protecting the less affluent of poorer countries, especially African citizens, whose countries are not as scientifically and industrially endowed as the United States and most Western countries, sources of most viral or bacterial GMOs that are strategically designed as biological weapons.” He also asks an important question when he says “It is most disturbing that the US Government has been operating a viral hemorrhagic fever bioterrorism research laboratory in Sierra Leone. Are there others?” Full story: globalresearch.ca

Comment: We have previously reported on Dr. Broderick’s work in Newsletter 856.


US War on Iran takes Bizarre Turn

October 18, 2014 — Covert support for the US-listed terrorist group Mujahedeen e-Khalq (MEK) has been ongoing since at least 2008 under the Bush administration, when Seymour Hersh’s 2008 New Yorker article “Preparing the Battlefield,” reported that not only had MEK been considered for their role as a possible proxy, but that the US had already begun arming and financing them to wage war inside Iran:

The MEK has been on the State Department’s terrorist list for more than a decade, yet in recent years the group has received arms and intelligence, directly or indirectly, from the United States. Some of the newly authorized covert funds, the Pentagon consultant told me, may well end up in MEK coffers. “The new task force will work with the MEK. The Administration is desperate for results” . . . More recently, the British Daily Mail published a stunning admission by “US officials” that Israel is currently funding, training, arming, and working directly with MEK . . . US officials confirmed today that Israel has been funding and training Iranian dissidents to assassinate nuclear scientists involved in Iran’s nuclear program. Washington insiders confirmed there is a close relationship between Mossad and MEK . . .

What it says about American foreign policy, to trick US servicemen and women into dying in far off lands to “fight terrorism” when US politicians in the highest positions of power openly pledge support to terrorism—using it as a battering ram against its enemies abroad, and failing to topple them by proxy, using their own terrorist hordes as a pretext for direct military intervention to do so—is that such policy is underpinned by nothing more than blind lust for power, wealth, and influence in senseless pursuit of global hegemony . . . That a US general can stand before terrorists even as the US bombs two nations in the name of fighting terrorism, is but a glimpse into this madness . . .
Full story: journal-neo.org

Comment: “By Way of DECEIT Thou shalt do War” MOSSAD, and USA.


ISIS downs Two US Warplanes, Who’s Responsible?

October 17, 2014 — Two US aircraft were hit by US built Patriot PAC 2 missiles and destroyed. The US secretly suspended attacks on ISIS targets as a result. Only drone attacks are proceeding . . . the use of . . . missiles identical to those the US had given Israel, is part of an attempt to capture any American servicemen or women in order to stage a public beheading . . . ISIS . . . has been “tasked” with embarrassing the Obama administration prior to upcoming elections . . . Patriot systems, range 160 km, had to be placed with advanced knowledge of the highly classified routes the planes were to travel . . .

Many top US Air Force commanders have been fired, some prosecuted, in the past 24 months, including almost the entire US nuclear command [as we reported] . . . all closely tied to Israel . . . Former US General Paul Vallely, a commentator for Israeli owned Fox News, has been filmed in Syria meeting with terrorist leaders. Vallely is accompanied by Israeli security personnel and is armed . . .

In 1980, Colonel Paul Vallely, commanded the 7th Psychological Warfare Operations Group at The Presidio, an American base in California. His chief of staff and close confidant was Major Michael Aquino, then head of the Church of Satan and Temple of Set, religious groups that practiced ritual human sacrifice. Vallely’s command was the center of the most sinister scandal in US military history . . . Aquino and Vallely called for an explicitly Nietzschean form of warfare, which they dubbed “Mindwar.”

Ritual Satanism within highest commands of the US military . . . commonplace, particularly among officers who often traveled to Israel . . . Many around the world are confused, unaware the US had a break with its allies, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Qatar, over military support for ISIS, especially considering that no White House official, until days ago, had ever spoken out about the rift between the US and it’s “allies” . . . Full story: journal-neo.org  youtube.com

Comment: “By Way of DECEIT Thou shalt do War” MOSSAD.


Turmoil in Hong Kong, Terrorism in Xinjiang: America’s Covert War on China

October 21, 2014 — With the so-called ‘Islamic State’ (ISIS) now implicated in receiving, training, and employing terrorists from China’s Xinjiang province, and considering the fact that ISIS is the result of an intentional, engineered proxy war the US and its allies are waging in the Middle East, along with the fact that the unrest in Hong Kong is also traced back to Washington and London, presents a narrative of an ongoing confrontation between East and West being fought on the battlefield of fourth generation warfare . . .

Washington appears to be taking . . . an attempt to enhance the menace of terrorists in Xinjiang. In addition to assisting US attempts to destabilize territory in China, ISIS has also threatened to launch a campaign against another US enemy—Russia—this in addition to already directly fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, the governments of Syria and Iraq, and with ISIS claiming to be behind attacks in Egypt against the military-led government that ousted the West’s Muslim Brotherhood proxies . . .

It was in April of 2014 that two co-organizers of the so-called ‘Occupy Central’ protests now ongoing in Hong Kong, would sit in Washington DC giving a talk hosted by the US State Department’s National Endowment for Democracy (NED). There, Martin Lee and Anson Chan set the stage for the impending ‘Occupy Central’ demonstrations, introducing soon-to-be famous ‘characters’ like US-cultivated ‘activist’ Joshua Wong, as well as repeating, verbatim, the agenda, talking points, and slogans now flooding the airwaves and headlines regarding Hong Kong’s unrest.

While the US attempts to peel off Xinjiang province by brute force, it is using a more subtle and insidious method in Hong Kong. During Lee and Chan’s talk in DC earlier this year, a representative from the Council on Foreign Relations would literally proclaim it was hoped that ongoing movements in Hong Kong would ‘infect’ mainland China. Indeed, while militancy and terrorism is being sown in China’s west, sedition, political instability, and social divisions are being cultivated in China’s east . . .

It is not a coincidence that ISIS is standing in for and fulfilling America’s deepest imperial aspirations from North Africa, across the Middle East, and now inching toward the borders of the West’s two largest competitors, Russia and China. Nor is it a coincidence that ‘Occupy Central’ protesters are parroting verbatim talking points scripted in Washington earlier this year. It is no coincidence that the US State Department’s NED is found involved in every hotspot of instability and conflict both within China’s borders and beyond them . . . Full story: globalresearch.ca


From Africa’s Richest State under Gaddafi, to Failed State after NATO

October 19, 2014 — In 1967 Colonel Gaddafi inherited one of the poorest nations in Africa; however, by the time he was assassinated, Gaddafi had turned Libya into Africa’s wealthiest nation. Libya had the highest GDP per capita and life expectancy on the continent. Less people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

After NATO’s intervention in 2011, Libya is now a failed state and its economy is in shambles . . . oil production has all but stopped . . . Libya now has two governments, both with their own Prime Minister, parliament and army . . .

America . . . is now backing a third force: long-time CIA asset, General Khalifa Hifter, who aims to set himself up as Libya’s new dictator. Hifter, who broke with Gaddafi in the 1980s and lived for years in Langley, Virginia, close to the CIA’s headquarters, where he was trained by the CIA, has taken part in numerous American regime change efforts, including the aborted attempt to overthrow Gaddafi in 1996 . . .

Perhaps, Gaddafi’s greatest crime, in the eyes of NATO, was his desire to put the interests of local labour above foreign capital and his quest for a strong and truly United States of Africa. In fact, in August 2011, President Obama confiscated $30 billion from Libya’s Central Bank, which Gaddafi had earmarked for the establishment of the African IMF and African Central Bank . . .

For over 40 years, Gaddafi promoted economic democracy and used the nationalized oil wealth to sustain progressive social welfare programs for all Libyans. Under Gaddafi’s rule, Libyans enjoyed not only free health-care and free education, but also free electricity and interest-free loans. Now thanks to NATO’s intervention the health-care sector is on the verge of collapse . . . institutions of higher education . . . are shut down, and black outs are a common occurrence . . .

One group that has suffered immensely from NATO’s bombing campaign is the nation’s women. Unlike many other Arab nations, women in Gaddafi’s Libya had the right to education, hold jobs, divorce, hold property and have an income. The United Nations Human Rights Council praised Gaddafi for his promotion of women’s rights.

When the colonel seized power in 1969, few women went to university. Today, more than half of Libya’s university students are women. One of the first laws Gaddafi passed in 1970 was an equal pay for equal work law . . .

Western interventions have produced nothing but colossal failures in Libya, Iraq, and Syria . . . they were the most modern and secular states in the Middle East and North Africa with the highest regional women’s rights and standards of living . . . the military campaign may indeed go down in history as one of the greatest failures of the 21st century . . .
Full story: globalresearch.ca


Rwanda and the Criminalisation of International Justice: Anatomy of War Crimes Trials

October 19, 2014 — The Nato ordered indictment of Muammar Gadaffi by the International Criminal Court (ICC) during the Nato attack on Libya in 2011 echoed the indictment of President Milosevic by International Criminal Tribunal For Yugoslavia, during the Nato attack on Yugoslavia in 1999. Both men ended up dead as a direct consequence. The indictments of these two men had only one purpose, to serve as propaganda to justify Nato’s aggression and the elimination of governments that refused to bend the knee.

The international criminal justice machine has become a weapon of total war, used not to prosecute the criminals who conduct these wars, but to persecute the leaders of the countries who resist.

Milosevic and Gaddafi are not the only victims of this criminalised international legal structure. The list is long:

    President Saddam Hussein of Iraq,
    President Charles Taylor of Liberia,
    Prime Minister Jean Kambanda of Rwanda,
    President Laurent Gbagbo of Ivory Coast,
    President Bashir of Sudan and
    President Uhuru Kenyatta of Kenya.

The charges against them trumped up, created out of whole cloth. Recently there was talk in the western press of charges against President Putin. We all see how absurd and surreal the game has become.

The structural role these tribunals have played in the attempt by the USA and its Nato allies to create a New World Order has been analyzed and described by distinguished jurists and writers around the world. Since I am a trial lawyer, I wanted to contribute to your understanding of the criminal nature of this international justice machine by relating to you some of my experience defending a particular political prisoner held by it. I could tell you about the scandalous practices of the ICTY in the Milosevic trial in which I was involved through his international defence committee but these are well known and have been recounted by a number of eminent persons and writers. There are many victims of these tribunals but I will focus on this one particular case because it stands as an exemplar of the many. However, the criminality was so deep and so extensive that when I began writing down the history of this trial I realised I would need a book to relate it all. So, in the time permitted us, I decided to provide you with a sketch of how these trials work.

So I am going to talk about the Rwanda tribunal because it is the most familiar to me and because the war in Rwanda is used time and again by the United States in its propaganda to justify its wars of intervention, so-called. The US claims that the violence that occurred in Rwanda in 1994 would not have happened if only America and others had acted instead of standing by and doing nothing. But now, after 15 years of trials and investigations, we know that the America and its allies did directly intervene. It was they who controlled that war and it was they who unleashed violence of an unprecedented magnitude and savagery simply in order to overthrow a regime that was an obstacle to greater conquests and riches in the Congo. Their forces, we now know, did most of the killing and Bill Clinton’s lie that the US was not involved is one of the great lies of history. As Boutros-Ghali told the Canadian writer on Rwanda, Robin Philpot, in 2004, “The Americans are 100% responsible for what happened in Rwanda.” Clinton’s Big Lie has been accepted and acted on because of the propaganda campaign that accompanied it in the media and the key to that propaganda campaign are the show trials at the Rwanda Criminal Tribunal, set up and financed by the same Nato countries and corporations and Soros connected NGOs as control the Yugoslav, Sierra Leone and Hariri tribunals . . .

There is not much more I can say except that it seems to me that international justice worthy of the name cannot exist without an international order that is democratic; a world order in which the sovereignty and equality of nations is fundamental . . . Full story: globalresearch.ca

Comment: See Newsletter 831 US behind Rwanda Genocide: installing Proxy State in Central Africa.


Chibok abduction is a gimmick

August 16, 2014 — The special Adviser to President Goodluck Jonathan on Niger Delta Kingsley Kuku, Friday, accused Northeast leaders of lying over the actual number girls abducted by the Boko Haram sect few months back. Kuku, who doubles as Chairman, Presidential Amnesty Programme, noted that the Americans have used their Drones to conduct search for over one month without finding the abducted girls . . . we did not find 70 students enrolling for Physics in a school but in Chibok, a community, I first heard in my life when this incident happened . . .
Full story: dailypost.ng.

President’s wife hams on youtube.com


What the World Eats

Daily diets vary considerably throughout the world. Interactive pie charts show percentages in each item in the local diet. Global meat consumption per person has nearly doubled since 1961. Full story: nationalgeographic.com


The Rock ‘n Roll Church

Based on a Sermon by Pastor Don Elmore

Revelation 18:4, “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.”

Colossians 3:16, “Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your heart to the Lord.”

The Church and its Music

The church began singing the Psalms found in the middle of our Bible. They were put to music and the congregation sang the praises to our God. Over many centuries new hymns were written: some good, some bad. But in the last fifty years, something new has slipped into the churches: endless choruses Jesus called “vain repetitions,” and singing to rock ‘n roll music, “any old way you choose it. It’s got a backbeat, you can’t lose it, any old time you use it”. Or as Brother Branham put it, “that old rock-and-roll, shimmy-dig, boogie-woogie, every kind of stuff they call it” (Love, #56-0726).

The church is serving other gods and not the God of the Bible. The church has learned the way of the heathen.

Colossians 3:16. Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your heart to the Lord.”

What exactly is the popular rock ‘n roll? It was not played in America until about 70 years ago. It first had its beginning in ancient Babylon. In fact its origins are purely religious, being an integral part of orgies and devil worship. This entire system of pagan Babylon, from its trinity of gods to its music eventually filtered down to Egypt.

Many modern historians trace the origins of rock music directly to Egypt. We know it was used to alter the emotions; it was used to create mass hypnosis and especially to incite immortality.

From ancient Egypt, it spread to the jungles of Africa. It was part of their religion. Music in Africa intricately evolved into devil worship, altering the conscious state and inciting sexual orgies. This music subsequently found its way across the Atlantic to America aboard slave ships.

When the Jewish-financed and promoted Black-slave trade triangle began, the Blacks brought their religious traditions with them. It went to Brazil, the Caribbean Islands, America and other places in South and Central America. Haiti, one of the central places where the slaves congregated, maintained their religious beliefs and music. The main area of America that the practitioners of Voodoo settled was New Orleans.

The Black slaves could not bring any material possessions to the new world when they were being kidnapped; but they could take their:

    1. Voodoo worship
    2. Pagan ritual dances
    3. Sexual drum beats

According to Leonard Seidel: “As with the Colony slaves, THEY BROUGHT WITH THEM ONLY THEIR WORSHIP OF GODS, THEIR DANCES AND THEIR DRUM BEATS.”

The exposure of this African music and dance tradition to the White public was a form of music called jazz, swing, and rhythm and blues. Brother Branham said, “Get a lot of dance orchestra people, some boy in a dance orchestra over here playing, last night, and tonight over here playing in the church of the living God? It’s an abomination in the sight of God. Let that man be proved first, and let him bring forth fruits meet for repentance to show that he’s right with God.
They bring the jazz world right into the platform. They bring the Hollywood, glamorizing preaching, right into the platform”  (Invasion of the USA, p. 16:119-120).

Authorities agree that work songs from the cotton fields, rural and urban blues, banjo styles from minstrel shows, syncopated brass bands and ragtime and Voodoo all played an important role in the eventual formation of rock ‘n roll.

Eventually jazz evolved into what we know today as rock ‘n roll, however it lost none of its heritage in its long journey from Babylon to Egypt to America and then to the world. It has simply been repackaged in a different form with the same rhythms and qualities that originated with devil worship, immorality and rebellion (i.e. witchcraft). Rock ‘n roll was originally a Black American slang term for fornication with vigor.

We have seen that the roots of rock came directly from the rites of pagan worship. Therefore its use and effects are the same today as they were then. Rock motivates you internally, giving you a sensual feeling. A girl can be ‘turned on’ by the music as it releases her inhibitions. The beat of the drum has always been a factor and she realizes her own sexuality through the music. A steady diet of rock ‘n roll promotes degenerate rebelliousness among teenagers that finds its outlet in drugs, alcohol and illicit sex.

Music and Morals

Two-faced ObamaLeonard Seidel contends that music does have moral values. We realize that morality dwells in human beings—not in black ink on white paper! However, we believe music serves as an emotional trigger that can be used for good or evil purposes. Certain lifestyles contrary to Christian principles are going to be characterized by a definite kind of music that is inconsistent with the teachings of New Testament biblical Christianity. The view of the “amorality of music” has opened the floodgates to a torrent of so-called ‘sacred music’ in which biblically correct doctrine has been fused with music that by its very own nature tells a different story. Such a two-faced creation is pulling in opposite directions. We need to look carefully at this controversy engulfing the Christian assembly.

You can tell the Scene by the Song

Perhaps you have had the following experience in your home: While located in one part of your home, you can hear the television set playing and you have immediately known something of what was happening in the situation being portrayed because of the type of music you heard. A cartoon has its own style of music, a mystery thriller has a distinct sound, and the afternoon soap operas have their type of music.

One of the most interesting facts concerning this revolves around a production company known as Major Records. They are in the business of providing background music for motion pictures, television shows, commercials and documentaries. They have made a fortune supplying “mood” or “background” music.

The owners have found that producers require a certain type of music for a particular scene. In looking through their catalog one will find musical settings that are recommended for use in setting the scene and triggering the very emotional feelings connected with the sins that you find in lists that the Apostle Paul wrote to the churches at Rome, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi and Colosse: “adultery, fornication, drunkenness, partying, jealousy, lying, stealing and murder”.

While living in Los Angeles, I had the opportunity on several occasions to observe recording sessions involving the technique of laying down 24 tracks of recorded sound. It is amazing to watch these engineers at work creating wide spectrums of sound.

An interesting article involving this very technique was found in a 1978 issue of Jet Magazine. It involved a dialogue between soul music composer Barry White and his recording engineer as together they assembled the sound track to Barry’s big hit, “Its Ecstasy When You Lay Down Next To Me.” (No explanation needed regarding the subject matter of this song!) At one point, Barry took over the control board and began to mix the sound. The interviewer for the magazine asked what he was doing and Mr. White replied:

“What I do with music is to put you in the mood for love. And how do I do this? I have to say to myself, ‘What instruments put people in the mood?’ Do you use a lot of horns and no strings? A lot of strings and no horns? Just rhythm? Just violins? My combination is, you need a little of all of it, because you’re not dealing with just one person. You’re dealing with the masses of people worldwide. Women love strings—cellos, violas, violins, harp, that’s the women. The horns—French horns, trombones, trumpets, flutes, saxophones—that’s the man. The rhythm—guitars, bass, drums and piano, that’s the bed where you’re gonna make love at. The rhythm lays out the bed.”

We do not intend to imply that what Mr. White has said about the various instruments always applies. But we do know that Barry White firmly believes that your emotions and thought patterns can be triggered and manipulated by music alone. (If you have listened to this recording you know there are very few words but the message of the song really does get through!)

Music, then, has a message, with or without words. The message heavy rock conveys is one of sensuality, base emotions . . . To attempt to portray Biblical truths in such a vehicle is as contrary as hitching an ox with a donkey to plow a field. The team is unmatched in some very basic ways which can only lead to confusion. God is not the author of confusion (Leonard J. Seidel, Christian Entertainment and Enjoyment)!

Remember that the Scriptures command “learn not the way of the heathen”
(Jeremiah 10:2).

Notice what is said in the book written by the first Black woman to be appointed a tenured full professor at Harvard concerning the music of the Blacks who were taken into slavery:

Damballa“There is no question that Haiti was the central place where African religious traditions syncretized with Catholic beliefs and practices to produce vaudou [voodoo] the ceremonies centered upon worship of the snake god Damballa through singing, dancing, and spirit possession” (Eileen Southern, The Music of Black Americans, 1983, p. 139).

Damballa was a Voodoo god, in serpent form, who is credited with creating the world and the gods, and is therefore the oldest of the gods. Notice that his lower part of his body is a serpent. Damballa is considered the father of all evil spirits.

Haiti and New Orleans are the principal places of Voodoo worship. Some worshipers become possessed with the god Damballa during Voodoo ceremonies. He does not talk through them as some Ioas would but makes a hissing noise like a snake.

Voodooists believe in a distant and unknowable creator god Bondye (likely derived from the French language term Bon Dieu, or Good Lord, the consecrated host of Judaeo-Catholicism supposedly transformed into Jesus Christ by a muttering priest). As Bondye does not intercede in human affairs, Voodooists direct their worship toward spirits subservient to Bondye, called Ioa. Every Ioa is responsible for a particular aspect of life, the dynamic and changing personalities of each Ioa reflecting the many possibilities inherent to the aspects of life over which they preside. In order to navigate daily life, Voodooists cultivate personal relationships with the Ioa through the presentation of offerings, the creation of personal altars and devotional objects, and participation in elaborate ceremonies of music, dance, and spirit possession.

a human unit“The religious worship of the Black slaves from Africa centered on drums and dancing so as they worshipped a god or demon, the ultimate experience was to have their bodies possessed by that demon. The rituals were grossly sensualistic and sadistic”  (Ibid). This outer worship void of faith yields their soul to possession by the unknown, unseen spirit controlling their mind and body. Jesus told the elect prostitute at the well, “You worship you know not what: we know what we worship” (John 4:22). Paul told his audience on Mars’ hill, “You men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are too superstitious. For as I passed by and beheld your devotions I saw an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore you ignorantly worship, Him I declare unto you” (Acts 17:22-23). Unregenerate souls are ruled by the senses that contact the outer material world; but unlike brute beasts, living souls are created for fellowship in union with the Creator. Under preeminence by the understanding of faith, which is His mind in us we are to reflect His Life to His creation. Hereby God is seen, worshipped and glorified in us (Acts 4:13; II Corinthians 3:2).

We are not to worship our God with the ten senses of our flesh and mortal spirit—see, feel, taste, hear, and smell, and memory, reason, conscience, imagination and affection. We are to worship Him in Spirit and in truth by a clear understanding in our soul which is faith. The regenerate soul in intimate, personal communion with the Lord God brings his mortal spirit to the obedience of faith, and it in turn mortifies the deeds of the body to bring it under subjection. God’s Word calls for a total separation from unbelief but the once Christian world did not uphold His strict standard in the Laodicean Church Age (1906 – 1965) and became “lukewarm” to the extent Christ’s Word was exiled without the camp (II Timothy 4:3-4; Revelation 3:17-20). Today the church is little more than the world with God’s Name on it and worldlyism has overcome the church. Whereas among even nominal Christians, men and women dressed modestly; the women did not wear clothing that pertained to a man, makeup, cut their hair or go mixed bathing, while men were gentlemen who ruled their homes well the stewardship of humanistic government legislation. They did not dance their way to a Christless grave, listened to tasteful music, and shunned Hollywood whereas today the Devil comes into the home via television.

Paganism is now a part of ‘normal’ everyday life; heathen customs and bad manners are the popular taste in clothing, poor language and loose morals. Grammar is omitted and swearing is accepted in colloquial and literary language, with eroticism, promiscuity and homosexuality almost mandatory. As in the jungle dances were enticing to each of the two sexes, in many cases in America they have became sadistic or violent in the night clubs, high school gyms and cafeterias.

Music performed and written by Christians is the music Christians one should play and hear. Music in which the melody is emphasized, not the rhythm, is the preferred kind of music. But just because it is played by a fellow ‘believer’ doesn’t make it right. As Moses was descending Mount Sinai with the stone tables containing the Ten Commandments inscribed by the finger of God, his servant Joshua heard the noise coming from the camp of Israel. He said: “There is a noise of war in the camp” (Exodus 32:17).

But Moses said to Joshua that is not a shout for mastery, but the noise of singing. When they came to the camp, they saw the Israelites singing, dancing, and naked performing many sins of the flesh before the gilded idol of a calf (Apis or Hapis, is a bull-deity that was worshipped in the Memphis region. “Apis served as an intermediary between humans and the all-powerful god”—originally Ptah, later Osiris, then Atum “God the Father,” god of creation, the arts and fertility in Egypt’s trinity). Moses was furious; he took the calf and burnt it in the fire, then ground it to powder and put it in the water and made the children of Israel drink of it (Exodus 32:20). What kind of music were they singing and dancing to, it must have been evil?

When God’s people stray their music parallels their backsliding. The Prophet warned us there is music that goes hand-in-hand with perversion, drunkenness, idolatry, and the rest of the sins of the flesh. There is also music that reflects the right position of the new man in Christ. Amos 6 gives us an insight into the sinful (Laodicean) state of the people of the Northern Kingdom in about 787BC. Rich and spoiled with plenty of leisure time, they lay on beds of ivory and ate the best cuts of meat—tender veal (“calves out of the midst of the stall”) and lamb. They pretended to be right with God but they were bankrupt spiritually and far from Him.

Their music apparently was as degraded as everything else. In Amos 5:23 God said, “Take away from Me the noise of your songs; for I will not hear the melody of your harps.” In Amos 8:2-3, He says He will never pass their way again and warns that their music would be wailings in that day.

Spiritually debased individuals have adhered to music that fostered their immorality. The false worship of Nebuchadnezzar’s five-storey-tall image in the plain of Dura was triggered by music. Four times in Daniel 3 music is closely connected with enforced state religion. Mark 6 records Herod’s birthday party. Included in the celebration was a wicked dance by Herodias’ daughter. This little number, performed for the pleasure of those attending the party, precipitated the murder of John the Baptist (Leonard J. Seidel, Christian Entertainment and Enjoyment).

“Of all the individuals related to ritual activity it is the drummer whose role would seem almost analogous to that of an individual virtuoso . . . Haitian ritual drumming requires more explicit craft training and practice than any other ritual activity” (Maya Deren, Divine Horseman—the Living Gods of Haiti, p. 233, 1953).

Miss Deren writes that it is “upon the drummer that the burden falls of integrating the participants into a homogeneous collective. It is the drumming which fuses the fifty or more individuals into a single body, making them move as one, as if all of these singular bodies had become linked on the thread of a single pulse—a pulse which beats, sending the body into a slow serpentine undulation which begin in the shoulders, then the spine, legs and hips” (Ibid, p. 235).

Many youth groups now are participating in “hip hop” and other forms of dancing to popular music. In fact, now after the children have grown up into the next generation of parents, churches are having this same music in their church services. The new mega churches have it and the old time denominations of early America have compromised and many have one contemporary service and one traditional service each Sunday.

Notice what took place in a conversation between a Voodoo priest’s son and Jimi Hendrix: “Rocki’s father was a Voodoo priest and the chief drummer of a village in Ghana, West Africa. Rocki’s real name was Kwasi Dzidzornu and one of the first things Rocki asked Jimi Hendrix was where he got that voodoo rhythm from. When Jimi demurred, Rocki went on to explain in his halting English that many of the signature rhythms Jimi played on guitar were the same rhythms his father played in voodoo ceremonies. The way Jimi danced to the rhythms of his playing reminded Rocki of the ceremonial dances to the rhythms his father played to Oxun (Oshun honoured in folk Catholicism), the god of thunder and lightning.”

Now let us look at a quote from an English singer-songwriter and musician who is probably best known for his 1988 hit “Simply Irresistible.” His name is Robert Palmer. “The idea that certain rhythm patterns or sequences serve as conduits for spiritual energies, linking individual human consciousness with the gods, is basic to traditional African religions and African-derived religions throughout the Americas. And whether we’re speaking historically or musicologically, the fundamental riffs, licks, bass figures, and drum rhythms that make rock ‘n roll rock can ultimately be traced back to African music of a primarily spiritual or ritual nature.”

“In a sense, rock ‘n roll is a kind of ‘voodoo,’ rooted in a vigorous tradition of celebrating nature [that which the Bible calls ‘the flesh’] and spirit that is FAR REMOVED from the sober patriarchal values espoused by the self-appointed guardians of western culture” [this is a reference to Bible-believing Christians], “among others” (Robert Palmer, Rock ‘n Roll, an Unruly History).

This rock ‘n roll singer is saying that the music he wrote and sang is “Voodoo.” Its basis is foreign to the Western Bible-based culture that the United States had for years. Almost single-handedly the rock ‘n roll music has turned our nation into a pagan society”.

In a 1982 interview with one of the fathers of Rock ‘n Roll, Jerry Lee Lewis, researcher Steve Turner asked what power falls on Jerry Lee when he performs. Lewis replied: “The power of Voodoo” (Turner, Hungry for Heaven, p. 26). Jerry Lee Lewis was related to defrocked Pentecostal televangelist Jimmy Swaggart; both cousins were drunks and womanizers.

Is the old Rock ‘n Roll okay to listen to? The lyrics were a lot tamer and many songs were innocent, but they all had the beat. Hear what one of the old Rock ‘n Rollers says about the music sung back then.

“My true belief about rock ‘n roll—and there have been a lot of phrases attributed to me over the years—is this: I believe this kind of music is demonic . . . A LOT OF THE BEATS IN MUSIC TODAY ARE TAKEN FROM VOODOO, FROM THE VOODOO DRUMS. If you study music in rhythms, like I have, you’ll see that is true . . . I believe that kind of music is driving people from Christ. It is contagious” (Little Richard, quoted by Charles White, The Life and Time of Little Richard, p. 197).

“The Blues were an indigenous creation of Black slaves who adapted their African musical heritage to the American environment. Though taking many forms and undergoing many permutations through the years, the blues formed the basis of rock ‘n roll. Probably most important, the slaves, accustomed to dancing and singing to the beat of drums in Africa, emphasized rhythm over harmony” (A Time to Rock: A Social History of Rock ‘n Roll, David Szatmary, p. 2).

The Bible says to make melody in your heart (Ephesians 5:19). When rhythm is the main part of a song, it is backwards and wrong. The drums, when they lead, take the person to the wrong god.
“It is hard to pinpoint the exact moment when I awoke to the fact that my tradition—rock ‘n roll—did have a spirit side, that there was a branch of the family that had maintained the ancient connection between the drum and the gods” (Mickey Hart, drummer for the Grateful Dead, Drumming at the Edge of Magic, p. 209, 210, 212).

Christian rock ‘n roll is an oxymoron. Rock ‘n roll is a very dirty term. In the 1890’s with the invention of the photograph; you didn’t have to hear the music in person. Within a few years you could buy a record and hear the music. Technology changed very rapidly. In the 1950’s the creation of a portable radio gave the opportunity for the music to be heard anywhere, anyplace and at any time. Then tapes, CD’s, movies, DVD’s carried the rock ‘n roll music; but when cell phones held the music; they couldn’t be burnt and destroyed for just the music. You would have to destroy the entire cell phone or iPad!

Crosby of Crosby, Stills & Nash made the bragging statement: “I figured that the only thing to do was steal their kids. I still think it’s the only thing to do . . . I’m not talking about kidnapping . . . but about changing young people’s value system”.

The sexuality of music is usually referred to in terms of rhythm; it is the beat that commands a directly physical response. The rock beat is musical perversion; the sound of lawlessness. The beat of rock is nothing new; the pagan, animistic tribes had the “rock beat” long before it came to America with them. They use the driving beat to get “high” and bring them into an altered state of consciousness. Traditional drumming and dancing techniques practiced by the African slaves were a vehicle for demon infestation. And today, rock ‘n roll music is designed to cast a demonic spell on the listener.

How did Rock ‘n Roll get into the Church?

How did this music get into the church? It is a fantastic story; it is the story of a hippie preacher who crept into the church and changed it forever.

Deuteronomy 7:26, Neither shall you bring an abomination into your house, lest you be a cursed thing like it: but you shall utterly detest it, and you shalt utterly abhor it for it is a cursed thing”.

Charles Ward ‘Chuck’ Smith (1927 – 2013) was an American pastor who founded the Calvary Chapel movement, beginning with the 25-person Costa Mesa congregation in 1965. His influence now extends to thousands of congregations worldwide, some of which are among the largest churches in the United States. He has been called “one of the most influential figures in modern American Christianity . . . one of the most influential Christian pastors who is known for training other prominent ministers . . .”

Much of Contemporary Christian Music has its roots in Calvary Chapel worship music . . . To his ragged following he was “Papa Chuck,” and he welcomed them to his church by the thousands, accepting the Jesus peoples’ barefoot, floor-sitting, outdoor-living habits and incorporating their rock music into his Sunday services—an innovation that other evangelical churches as well as many mainline Protestant and Roman Catholic churches later adopted. But he was the first.

In 1971, Mr. Smith helped found Maranatha Music, one of the first contemporary Christian record companies in the United States, partly to provide a platform for the Christian musicians and songwriters who performed at his church. The group Love Song, referred as the “Beatles of the Christian World,” one of the first ‘Christian’ rock groups, was for a time a kind of house band at Calvary Chapel . . .

Chuck Smith was a Southern California minister who shepherded flower children and rock ‘n roll into the conservative wing of the evangelical movement while building a religious organization that grew to encompass 700 congregations and hundreds of radio stations. Youth ministries developed, desirous to see God work in a revival. Healings, very little theology, unification, drastic change in the worship service, Universalism, Armenianism: as a result the church became the world.

Bob Dylan, who is a Jew, sang the song, “The Times They are A-Changin’.” This referred to the times of the civil rights movement in the United States. The video of the song begins with a politician from the South saying: “All the people of the South are in favor of segregation. And Supreme Court or no Supreme Court, we are going to maintain segregated schools down in Dixie.”

The song was about the changes that occurred in America. It was the same changes that were about to happen in the Christian Church. The churches went from being independent, straight-only marriages, segregated churches to a diverse, same-sex, marriages, multicultural, sodomite, rock ‘n roll, integrated, and state run 501C (3) churches . . .

“It looked like no congregation anyone had ever seen before,” Mr. Laurie wrote in his 2008 memoir, “Lost Boy.” “Barefoot hippies sat on the floor, praising the Lord, while old ladies in hats smiled, shrugged and sang their hymns.”

Explo ’72—billed as the “Spiritual Woodstock” or “Godstock,” the Campus Crusade-sponsored event featured a number of evangelical leaders and Jesus Music performers in a week long campaign (May 12-17). Featured artists were Love Song, Larry Norman, Randy Matthews, Children of the Day, Johnny Cash, and Kris Kristofferson. The week was closed with a sermon by Billy Graham who had recently penned a book affirming his allegiance with “The Jesus Generation”.

When John Wimber—a rock ‘n roll musician with the Righteous Brothers—was apprehended by God he was, as Christianity Today magazine described him, a “beer-guzzling, drug-abusing pop musician, who was converted at the age of 29 while chain-smoking his way through a Quaker-led Bible study”.

John was always an advocate of church unity and spent seasons of his life hanging out with different denominations and movements. He would insist that where the name of Jesus was honored be it among snake-handling churches or those worshipping with their candles and their incense, all who loved Jesus were his brothers and sisters. [Not according to Amos 3:3, II Corinthians 6:14-18, and Revelation 18:4].

So, it started from the Calvary Chapel which incorporated the “Jesus people” into their church; followed in its footsteps by the Vineyard church in 1982; this was followed by Charles Wimber’s Calvary chapel that changed its name to the Vineyard Church when Charles was asked to oversee all the Vineyard churches. These churches were church planters who would plant new churches that were a racially and culturally diverse group; just like the nation had become. They were what the rock music dictated: no more segregation; integration!

This music, which many churches said came from the pit, created a rebellious, new kind of person—called “Jesus people” or “flower people” or as Time magazine called them; “Jesus freaks.” It was a troublesome time. What happened to all of these “Jesus people?” They virtually disappeared from the land in 1975.

The nation was experiencing the Vietnam War, the assassinations of their president and secretary of state, and the civil rights movement was beginning. As Bob Dylan sang, The Times are a-changin’. A former pastor of the International church of the Four-square Gospel saw a host of these people on the beaches in the town in which he had started a new church. The preacher had a desire to reach these people—so he went to where they were—the beaches. He both preached there and baptized there.

In appreciation of his kindness, many of these Jesus people flocked to his church. The church grew and with it came both their rock ‘n roll music and bare feet. There were so many people in the church, that they planted another church, then another: others followed. Then they formed the Vineyard Churches, Campus Crusade for Christ, Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and Jews for Jesus, Jesus People USA; Kathryn Kuhlman befriended a number of converted hippies from Calvary Chapel and was convinced to do a number of her “I Believe in Miracles” television shows with them as the main guests; The Living Room and House of Acts, Toronto Blessing, Lakeside Church Kundalini practices, Full Gospel Business Men’s Fellowship World Convention, Christian Liberation World Front, Salt Company Coffeehouse, Upper Streams, Children of God, Shiloh Youth Revival Centers Organization, Toronto Catacombs, Hal Lindsey’s Jesus Christ Light and Power Company, Hollywood Free Paper, Greg Laurie and Harvest Christian Fellowship, The Way International, Gospel Outreach Lighthouse Ranch, Scott Ross and Love Inn, Milwaukee Jesus People, David Wilkerson’s Teen Challenge program, Jesus People Army, His Place nightclub; and Larry Norman contributed some of the most lasting anthems of the Jesus People Movement; many other (so-called) “Jesus” movement organizations helped create a new rock ‘n roll Christianity (so-called).

Another development was Jesus Music (so-called), the controversial combination of rock music and the gospel was one of the most effective (and subsequently lasting) institutions of the revival. The strange revival would not have expanded if it was not promoted by Jewish national magazines radio, television and newspapers: Time, Newsweek, Life, Rolling Stone, US News & World Report and others. Although the Jesus People Movement remains relatively neglected by mainstream churches, its influence throughout the church was considerable. It conquered it with it even knowing it was conquered.

Even former musicians of rock ‘n roll bands became leaders of these new kinds of churches: very strong on worship, very weak on theology. The “Jesus movement” had succeeded. They had transformed the Christian church to an anti-Christian church and very few realized what had happened (Revelation 3:17-20)!

Calvary Chapel was friends with Kathryn Kuhlman, who was a Jesuit Roman Catholic witch. When Brother Branham died she said, “The oppressor is dead” (or words to that effect). At the Chapel they had Jerry Boykin, Grand Chancellor with the Jesuitical “Knights of Malta” (military army of the Roman Catholic Church); preacher of Morning Star Fellowship of North Carolina, Rick Joyner [note the drums; Knight of Malta], [faux historian] David Barton, Glenn Beck [Chrislam] and Rick Warren [Chrislam/globalization] as speakers and friends. They all are in favor of globalism and a Judaeo-Roman Catholic one-world-church.

If rock ‘n roll hadn’t come on the scene, there would not be all of these pseudo-Christian universalist organizations! Rock ‘n roll is here to stay and it is the sound of sin engrained in our people. It is the backbone of all the mega churches and the majority of old mainstream denomination churches in town. They will stay universal as long as there is rock ‘n roll music, for its beat leads to the wrong god(s).

I am committed to no longer listen to rock ‘n’ roll; knowing what it really is. It is revolutionary music. I will not listen to it in the church or out of the church. And I definitely will not listen to so-called Christian Rock as it should be properly called Babylonian Rock.

There has been a growing decline of Western Christian civilization in the past two centuries, especially in the last 50 years since Jesus opened the Seven Seals and revealed their mystery through His Prophet, William Branham. When the churches rejected the Revelation, they rejected the Son of Man like Israel before them. Theology has produced rebellion which is as the sin of witchcraft (I Samuel, 15:23) and invited rock ‘n roll into the sanctuaries (Ezekiel 8; I Peter 4:17).

The one doctrine these churches refuse to teach is the Covenant God made with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and his Seed (singular), Jesus Christ and those accounted in Him on Calvary (II Corinthians 5:13-21) elect of every nation, tribe, tongue and colour of the first Adam’s race. Instead they preach what rock ‘n roll has taught and ignore the original sin claiming all men are created equal when most men are of Cain and have no part or inheritance in the first or the last Adam.

The Song of Salvation

It is unthinkable that any honest student of music theory or history and the Word of God would believe that music is in itself amoral—that it does not have the power to move the passions to evil or lift the spirit of man to praise and worship of God. Just as our examination has revealed the evil side of this question, so there is a glorious positive side where music reflects the highest spiritual plane in those composers and arrangers who have experienced the richest thoughts of the God of the Bible and His plan of salvation in His Son.

To link together the highest possible thought (which is of God Himself) to the language of music (the most expressive of the arts) is to present to mankind the greatest gift known. From the wealth of history come hundreds of examples that are analyzed and imitated today.

Music, then, has a message, with or without words. The message heavy rock conveys is one of sensuality, base emotions . . . To attempt to portray biblical truths in such a vehicle is as contrary as hitching an ox with an ass to plow a field (Deuteronomy 22:10). The team is unmatched in some very basic ways which can only lead to confusion and God is not the author of confusion (Leonard J. Seidel, Christian Entertainment and Enjoyment; I Corinthians 14:33)! nl859.htm


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